Never seen 'em? Nobody has... well... I have. I was one of twenty lucky souls to be at the Loewenstein show on May 10th. Forcing the Tao was wonderful. I could tell that they were a bit nervous (the singer / guitarist made an off-hand under-the-breath remark about being too high... ?). Very spacious, mature little sound snippets of songs mingled with ear-splitting epics... and only two members to speak of. Very nice. I was (am?) an Ithaca fan and was very distraught when I heard of their break-up (both of them)... this will do nicely, though.